Laura Flanders Show

In 2022, the U.S. Supreme Court could overturn Roe v Wade, imperiling all women's freedoms, and creating a new pipeline to prison for the vulnerable just as the world is learning how counterproductive most incarceration - solutions are. Today's guests argue that things could have been very different if the white dominated "choice" movement had paid closer attention to all women's choices, or lack thereof; if anti-violence advocates had rejected criminalization and incarceration as a solution to the violence in women's lives. Things could have been different, our guests argue, if a different part of the US women's movement had gained more attention - attention it is beginning to get now. There has always been such a movement, they know, because they were there. Today we talk to Black abolitionist feminist Beth Richie and Queer southern feminist Suzanne Pharr who have worked together, for abolition, feminism, and a systemic differently world for forty years. What have they learned? And what is their message for us now, when so much hangs in the balance? Guests: Suzanne Pharr, Co-founder, Southerners on New Ground. Author, Transformation: Toward a People's Democracy Beth Richie, Director, Institute for Research on Race & Public Policy, University of Illinois at Chicago. Author, Compelled to Crime: the Gender Entrapment of Black Battered Women & Co-Author with Angela Y.. Davis, Gina Dent and Erica R. Meiners of Abolition. Feminism. Now.